tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6507800424207531930.post2078808999246730700..comments2023-09-28T08:39:54.563-07:00Comments on Backseat Driver: Third Shifters; Bringing ImpactKatiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13972050713200044461noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6507800424207531930.post-58571927368833024922010-06-29T12:04:56.340-07:002010-06-29T12:04:56.340-07:00Outstanding Katie - this is exactly what its about...Outstanding Katie - this is exactly what its about. If Jesus (hypothetically) started a church it woudl all be relational and simple. If a contemporary church leader did - for all the efforts, he would still fail to reach the depth or scope of what Jesus would achieve. There are churches in Africa that meet under trees - and are more church than most modern concept of church can ever hope to be.My profilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566494897095845350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6507800424207531930.post-85340486712063960102010-06-15T09:33:39.516-07:002010-06-15T09:33:39.516-07:00Great question and comments Ivforbb!
Personally, I...Great question and comments Ivforbb!<br />Personally, I think we are "laboring to see "third shifters" arise in our communities" as you said. <br /><br />That said, of course the Kingdom is always multidimensional - and God working with people on different levels and purposes and also uniquely in their environments and oikos. <br /><br /> I believe, overall, we are moving out of the First Shifter time and are mainly in the Second Shifter era. Second Shifters as I argue, are those who make the message useful and palatable for the masses. They build on the foundations and set the stage for the majority of work to be accomplished (Kingdom speaking) by the Third Shifters. Timothy is a great example of a Second Shifter. Philemon, the Jailer, and others good examples of the beginning of Third Shifters. <br /><br />Again, it's not so "cut and dry" and I want to be careful in making it sound as such. But the overall movement, as I see it right now, is at this place. We ultimately need to be investing in the Third Shifters (which by the way, we ALL should be in essence Third Shifters, sharing Jesus within our spheres of influence), encouraging, releasing, empowering, supporting the "families of God" that will ultimately be those making disciples and raising them to maturity.<br />Thanks for your efforts in your own oikos to be such a person!!! May God continue to lead you and guide your steps and give you divine connections as you do your part in His Kingdom! May your light shine, and your influence increase for His Glory and Purposes!!!Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13972050713200044461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6507800424207531930.post-29850736240949494102010-06-13T09:34:44.337-07:002010-06-13T09:34:44.337-07:00Not that this is a terribly important question, bu...Not that this is a terribly important question, but I'm interested in how you see people today. Are we "third shifters" or are we laboring to see "third shifters" arise in our communities?<br /><br />My point. Paul & Barnabas were the 2 sent to the gentiles to prepare the way for Jesus. As they reaped the harvest, we see more harvesters join their journeys (ie. Timothy, John Mark, etc). Again, the new pairs go out and prepare more for Christ. The people Paul acknowledges in his letters are beginning to tap into the "third shifters," or perhaps "third generation" of believers as a result of Paul's ministry.<br /><br />I'm new to the simple church movement, and a friend of mine (whose done this for almost a decade) is mentoring me through any snags that come up. Our community has never seen the likes of discipleship in a house church context. So... are we "first shifters" in our community or an extension of Paul's missionary journeys? Just some food for thought.lvforbbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10308916809322816420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6507800424207531930.post-41241723560297231722010-06-12T12:37:24.396-07:002010-06-12T12:37:24.396-07:00THANK YOU! Trey, for helping in giving some timely...THANK YOU! Trey, for helping in giving some timely clarity to me when I was sifting through some of this in my thoughts. Your input was invaluable and very encouraging!Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13972050713200044461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6507800424207531930.post-53450217079106831692010-06-12T09:55:54.903-07:002010-06-12T09:55:54.903-07:00Thank you for developing the 'shifters' th...Thank you for developing the 'shifters' thought to recognize seasons through which the church moves.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00142916759832571635noreply@blogger.com